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Friday, 10 December 2004
The pentagon is going KGB on soldiers who decent.

As already noted on this Blog on Nov. 1st. a U.S. soldier is going to be Court Martialed for being AWOL because he went to a civilian psychiatric hospital.

According to the WaPo:

An Army reservist who checked himself into a civilian psychiatric hospital after being turned away from a military clinic should be court-martialed for being absent without leave, according to an Army report.

First Lt. Jullian P. Goodrum, of Knoxville, Tenn., is a veteran of both U.S. wars in Iraq and is being treated for post-traumatic stress disorder at Walter Reed Army Medical Center. Goodrum was also suffering from the disorder last fall, the time of his alleged infraction.

He and his lawyers deny that he was ordered to return to Fort Knox, citing testimony from his senior officer, Capt. Debra G. Savage.

"I did not order First Lt. Goodrum to come back. I gave him two alternatives," the Amaral report quotes Savage as saying.

Tennessee Republican Sens. Bill Frist and Lamar Alexander asked the Army to investigate and report back on his case.

Locked up in Psycho ward?

The senators specifically asked about allegations that Goodrum had been inappropriately locked down in the Walter Reed psychiatric ward.

Goodrum's medical records suggest that he was locked down for administration or legal reasons rather than medical reasons, as is the norm.

Yes, locked up in a psycho ward for decent.

Salon.com reports another solder was also locked away:

On June 15, 2003, Sgt. Frank "Greg" Ford, a counterintelligence agent in the California National Guard's 223rd Military Intelligence (M.I.) Battalion stationed in Samarra, Iraq, told his commanding officer, Capt. Victor Artiga, that he had witnessed five incidents of torture and abuse of Iraqi detainees at his base, and requested a formal investigation.

Thirty-six hours later, Ford, a 49-year-old with over 30 years of military service in the Coast Guard, Army and Navy, was ordered by U.S. Army medical personnel to lie down on a gurney, was then strapped down, loaded onto a military plane and medevac'd to a military medical center outside the country.

Although no "medevac" order appears to have been written, in violation of Army policy, Ford was clearly shipped out because of a diagnosis that he was suffering from combat stress. After Ford raised the torture allegations, Artiga immediately said Ford was "delusional" and ordered a psychiatric examination.

The writer of the article, David DeBatto, author and former U.S. Army counterintelligence agent who served in Iraq said in an interview on democracynow.org

After Ford was given thirty seconds to recant his herasy...

..."the army psychiatrist that saw Sergeant Ford apparently (and I've reviewed her report) deemed him to be completely normal, and sent that report back to Captain Artiga. When Captain Artiga saw the report from the psychiatrist he was, according to a witness, Sergeant Marciello, "livid."

He didn't accept the report. He stormed back over to the army psychiatrist, and according to the witness I have, literally forced her, browbeat her and intimidated the psychiatrist to change her evaluation to read 'mentally unstable,' and ordered her to ship Sergeant Ford medically out of the country to receive a psychological evaluation in Germany.

Rumsfeld weighs in on armor controversy:

According to the news wires Rumsfeld in New Dehli said of the soldier who brought up his concerns about the lack of armor on vehicles in Iraq "it was good that ordinary soldiers are given a chance to express their concerns to the secretary of defense and senior military commanders." Just so long as they want a trip to the mental ward!

``I don't know what the facts are [Obviosly], but somebody is certainly going to sit down with him [Poor bastard!] and find out what he knows that they may not know,'' Rumsfeld said.

``It's necessary for the Army to hear that, do something about it and see that everyone is treated properly.''[Oh, I'm sure he will be.]

Homeless vets appearing:

In another related story to the crappy way our vets are being treated it was reported by UPI that:

U.S. veterans from the war in Iraq are beginning to show up at homeless shelters around the country, and advocates fear they are the leading edge of a new generation of homeless vets not seen since the Vietnam era.

"I drove off in my truck. I packed my stuff. I lived out of my truck for a while," Seabees Petty Officer Luis Arellano, 34, said in a telephone interview from a homeless shelter near March Air Force Base in California run by U.S.VETS, the largest organization in the country dedicated to helping homeless veterans.

Arellano said he lived out of his truck on and off for three months after returning from Iraq in September 2003. "One day you have a home and the next day you are on the the streets.

Arellano said he felt pushed out of the military too quickly after getting back from Iraq without medical attention he needed for his hand -- and as he would later learn, his mind.

"It was more of a rush. They put us in a warehouse for a while. They treated us like cattle," Arellano said about how the military treated him on his return to the United States.

"It is all about numbers. Instead of getting quality care, they were trying to get everybody demobilized during a certain time frame. If you had a problem, they said, 'Let the (Department of Veterans Affairs) take care of it.'"

Posted by bushmeister0 at 4:32 PM EST
Updated: Friday, 10 December 2004 4:39 PM EST
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Saturday, 18 December 2004 - 9:26 PM EST

Name: John

Re: Whitewashing Torture and Greg Ford:

The sad thing about the coverup article is that the person in question is in fact crazy and delussional.
For example: if you look closely at the photograph of Mr. Ford, you will see that there is an insignia on top of his left breast pocket. It is the insignia of the Navy Seals, or the budweiser badge as it is commonly refered to.
It might not be important to everybody, but wearing insignias and badges you have not earned is a crime. Pretending to be a person you are not shows inmaturity and shame on who you are.
Mr. Ford is wearing the uniform while on active duty displaying a badge he did not earn, insulting the men who have rightfully earned and died while serving their country in some of the most daring and dangerous missions anybody could ask for. It degrades the lost lives and the sacrifice made by every single Seal in the community.
Also, Mr. Ford was known as Doctor Ford. He even used to sign with the M.D. Suffix on his name. Never mind that Mr. Ford is not a doctor.
So, taking into consideration that this person makes allegations of torture, while pretending to be a Navy Seal and a Doctor, makes you kind of wonder the veracity of his statements.
Also, it is nice to note that Mr. DeBatto, describes events in his article that never actually happened.
For example. In trying to show what a poor leader Col. Pappas is, he mentions the fact that 3 soldiers died while in transit to his Change Of Command Ceremony. That never took place.
In reality, the soldiers died while travelling to LTC Griffin's Change Of Command Ceremony, one of COL. Pappas' subordinate commanders.
Mr. DeBatto mentioned the fact that the 223rd was one of the first divisions to enter Iraq after the "Shock and Awe" aerial bombardment.
Well. The fact that the 223rd was one of the first "UNITS" to enter the war is almost true. Elements of the 223rd MI Bn entered Iraq early in the war. But those elements were attached and/or assigned to the 519th MI Bn (ABN TE). The HQ Section was safely in Kuwait awaiting movement orders (including DeBatto and Ford).
DeBatto calls the 223rd a "division". Anybody who knows military doctrine can tell you that a Division is a military unit composed of many brigades and battalions. For an "intelligence expert" to call a battalion "a division" makes you kind of wonder if he is truly that familiar with simple military structure. Is the trying to make it sound like the 223rd is a huge unit? Or is he just showing his ignorance in simple military doctrine and terminology.
Ford mentions the fact that "no medevac order" was written. That is not cover up material. That is just a sign of the fact that the headquarters section of the 223rd did not know how to operate in that environment. The 223rd MI Bn (L) (prior to the OIF I deployment) had never been to war. Many rules and regulations were broken or omitted not due to "conspiracy", but just plain ignorance and lack of knowledge. No person be it civilian or military is authorized into a military aircraft without being entered into the aircraft' Manifest. That is a matter of procedure. Mr. Ford's departure from the theater is a known fact. Everybody in the unit knew about it, and most were glad about it.
To finish this of, I would like to say that I personally know two of the soldiers Mr. Ford is accusing of "torture". He could have not picked two nicer people to make wild accusations against. These two are professionals, who have ethics and respect for human life and dignity. It pains me to hear that Mr. Ford is tarnishing their names and their military careers. To accuse somebody of war crimes is a tall order and it must be done with a clear head and appropiate evidence.
And even though a lot of people did not enjoy working for LTC Ryan or CPT Artiga, these two officers are hardly the types to try to cover up anything of this magnitude. LTC Ryan was media-savy and would have jumped at the chance to get his name in the news.
Mr. Ford might be trying to clear his name, but we in the 223rd know him for who he is: a wannabe navy seal who falsely claimed to be a doctor, and is now claiming that his team-mates are torturers. He shames the military intelligence community, he shames his THT team who did outstanding work in the field, but worse of all, he shames himself.
Out

Saturday, 18 December 2004 - 9:26 PM EST

Name:

Re: Whitewashing Torture and Greg Ford Part II:

By the way,

if you go to www.veriSEAL.org, a group dedicated to exposing phonies (in the special warfare

community), you may see:

http://sec-global.com/services/ctp/vsg/profiles/fordfg/fordfg002-ftlewis.jpg

By the way, that is in fact the photopraph supplied by Salon.com

Maybe a person who has no regard for the UCMJ and Federal Law, might not have a problem making

up stories about abuse. Maybe in fact, he is delusional and/or suffering from PTSD.

Sunday, 19 December 2004 - 9:19 AM EST

Name: bushmeister0

Thanks for your comments John.

I certainly appreciate your input on this subject.

Perhaps you ought to contact the writer of the Salon story. According to you there are a lot of discrepancies in his reporting.

You must undertsand, however, in the current climate of investigations and official reports that seem to come out on a daily basis there is quite a bit of evidence of serious misconduct and torture being perpetrated on prisoners and civilians in Iraq and Afghanistan.

You can see why Mr. Ford's statemets created such a stir.

Tuesday, 21 December 2004 - 12:02 PM EST

Name: John

You are correct. It indeed caused a stir. And it is true, given the current climate, it is unfortunate that all these things are happening to us, being perpetrated by us.

I am not going to excuse the wrongdoers. The only difference between today and the past, is that now, we have e-mail accounts and digital cameras when we fight wars.

Countless tortures have been committed in the past by all parties involved in conflict all over the world.

Maybe having all this technology will make people do what's right. Now that proof can be recorded, submitted and processed so quickly and by so many different media, it might work to our advantage. I mean, it worked for the decapitators, but I guess it is okay for them to do those things because we are the oppressors and they are the freedom fighters.

Anyway, I found this little article written by the LA Times. It quotes LTC Ryan and CPT Artiga. Please note the date it was published: 05 Jun 2004. Makes you kind of wonder.

Take care,

John.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/iraq/la-me-tempest5jun05,1,1094982.story

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